Concise Minutes - Local Government and Housing Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 5, Tŷ Hywel

Meeting date: Thursday, 11 December 2025

Meeting time: 09.01 - 12.38
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/15634

Hybrid

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Attendance

Category

Names

Members of the Senedd:

John Griffiths MS (Chair)

Altaf Hussain MS (In place of Peter Fox MS)

Lesley Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

Witnesses:

Jayne Bryant MS, Cabinet Secretary for Housing and Local Government

Committee Staff:

Catherine Hunt (Clerk)

Andrea Storer (Second Clerk)

Evan Jones (Deputy Clerk)

Osian Bowyer (Researcher)

Aled Evans (Legal Adviser)

Jennie Bibbings (Researcher)

 

<AI1>

1       Welsh Government Draft Budget 2026-27: Consideration of draft report

 

1.1     The Committee considered the draft report.

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<AI2>

2       Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

2.1     The Chair welcomed everyone to the meeting.

2.2     Apologies were received from Peter Fox MS. Altaf Hussain MS attended as a substitute.

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<AI3>

3       Homelessness and Social Housing Allocation (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 Proceedings

 

3.1     In accordance with Standing Order 26.21, the Committee disposed of the following amendments to the Bill:

 

Amendment 19 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 20 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 60 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 60 was not agreed

 

Amendment 2 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 21 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 22 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 23 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 24 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 61 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 61 was not agreed

 

Amendment 25 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 26 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 62 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 62 was not agreed

 

Amendment 63 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 63 was not agreed

 

Amendment 27 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 44 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 44 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 28 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 29 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 3 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 30 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 31 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 32 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 64 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 64 was not agreed

 

Amendment 65 (Joel James MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 66 (Joel James MS) was not moved

 

Amendment 67 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 67 was not agreed

 

Amendment 33 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 45 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was not moved

 

Amendment 68 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 68 was not agreed

 

Amendment 34 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 35 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 36 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 46 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 46 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 47 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 47 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 4 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 69 (Joel James MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 37 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 38 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 39 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 40 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 70 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 70 was not agreed

 

Amendment 71 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 71 was not agreed

 

Amendment 72 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 72 was not agreed

 

Amendment 5 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 73 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 73 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 74 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 74 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 57 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 6 (Jayne Bryant MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths MS

 

Altaf Hussain MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Joel James MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

 

Amendment 6 was agreed.

 

Amendment 7 (Jayne Bryant MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths MS

 

Altaf Hussain MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Joel James MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

 

Amendment 7 was agreed.

 

Amendment 8 (Jayne Bryant MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths MS

 

Altaf Hussain MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Joel James MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

 

Amendment 8 was agreed.

 

Amendment 9 (Jayne Bryant MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

John Griffiths MS

 

Altaf Hussain MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Joel James MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

 

Amendment 9 was agreed.

 

Amendment 75 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 75 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 10 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 76 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 76 was not agreed

 

Amendment 77 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 77 was not agreed

 

Amendment 78 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

Siân Gwenllian MS

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

Amendment 78 was not agreed

 

Amendment 11 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 58 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 59 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 51 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 51 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 52 (Siân Gwenllian MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

As the vote was tied, the Chair used his casting vote in the negative (in accordance with SO 6.20(ii)). Therefore amendment 52 was not agreed.

 

Amendment 12 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 13 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 14 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 15 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 53 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 41 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 54 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was withdrawn

Amendment 16A (Siân Gwenllian MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 16 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 55 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was not moved

Amendment 17 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 56 (Siân Gwenllian MS) was not moved

Amendment 80 (Joel James MS) was not moved

Amendment 43 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

Amendment 18 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

Amendment 79 (Joel James MS)

 

In Favour

Against

Abstain

Altaf Hussain MS

John Griffiths MS

 

Joel James MS

Lee Waters MS

 

 

Lesley Griffiths MS

 

 

Siân Gwenllian MS

 

Amendment 79 was not agreed

 

Amendment 42 (Jayne Bryant MS) was agreed in accordance with Standing Order 17.34(i)

 

 

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<AI4>

4       Motion under Standing Order 17.42(ix) to resolve to exclude the public from the remainder of this meeting

4.1     The Committee agreed the Motion.

</AI4>

<AI5>

5       Building Safety (Wales) Bill - Stage 2 order of consideration (Subject to agreement of the general principles on 9 December)

5.1     The Committee agreed the Stage 2 order of consideration for the Building Safety (Wales) Bill.

</AI5>

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